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Debunking the Deniers of Global Warming

Global Warming Denial

New Zealand’s Franz Josef Glacier
New Zealand’s Largest Glacier - The Tasman Glacier
Mt. Rainier’s Nisqually Glacier
Norway’s Briksdal Glacier

and a
Global Warming Denial Liar

The Ice Age Now Website - run by Robert Felix

   Typical tactics of the Global Warming Deniers include outright lies. The Ice Age Now website claims that many glaciers are growing/expanding. We will look at several of the glaciers that they claim are growing, and show that they are in reality - shrinking.

The Ice Age Now web site lists the Franz Josef Glacier as
          a growing glacier.   New Zealand’s Franz Josef Glacier is a good case study of the ongoing retreat of world glaciers as opposed to the claims of the Global Warming Deniers that the world’s glaciers are advancing. The Print Screen images to the right and below illustrate the typical false claims of the Global Warming Deniers.

   The Ice Age Now website ( - run by Robert Felix) claims that the Franz Josef Glacier is increasing in size. The website includes the Franz Josef Glacier in its list of “Growing Glaciers”. (Please see the Print Screen image at right.)

   The Ice Age Now website even has a web page devoted to the Franz Josef Glacier where they state that the glacier has “continued advancing down” its valley.

   If you were to believe the Ice Age Now website, you would be led to believe that there never has been any recent retreat of the Franz Josef Glacier. This is what they want you to believe.

   There is no mention that the Franz Josef Glacier has actually shrunk by more than one mile since the 1920’s.

According to Ice Age Now, the Franz Josef Glacier is
            marching down its valley.

As documented below, the Franz Josef Glacier has retreated more than one mile since the 1920s.

The picture above is a copy of what appeared in The New
            Zealand Railways Magazine in 1928.

   The picture above is a copy of what appeared in The New Zealand Railways Magazine in 1928.

   The picture was taken from a 200-foot high hill at about 43.4244 S, 170.1690 E. (Note: If you go any further up the valley, you can’t see the high snow caped mountains in the distance.)

The glacier fills the entire valley.

The picture above was taken from the same spot but in

   The picture above was taken from the same spot but in 2006. (Photo courtesy of  The glacier has retreated more than one mile up the valley. In the 1928 picture, a shoulder on the ridge on the left side of the picture is about level with the surface of the glacier. The same shoulder is visible in the 2006 photo. Google Earth lets you measure the elevation of objects. That shoulder on the ridge is now 1,000 feet above the valley floor.

The Franz Josef Glacier in 2011.

   The photo above can be seen at  and shows the status of the Franz Josef Glacier as of April 2011. If you compare the lower end of the glacier with the 2006 photo, it’s obvious that the glacier is continuing to shrink.

A 2014 photo showing where the Franz Josef Glacier used
            to be.

And finally, here is a 2014 photo showing where the Franz Josef Glacier used to be.

   Also please see the “Franz Josef Glacier's 'rapid' retreat (+photos)” article at for 2008 vs. 2012 photographs documenting the continued retreat of the Franz Josef Glacier.

    The lower end of a glacier is where melting predominates. If a glacier is active, its flow can replace the portion that melts, and the glacier’s front remains approximately stationary. If the flow of ice decreases, then melting takes over. 80 years of melting times a melting rate of 12.5 feet a year will wipe out a 1,000 foot thickness of ice.

A graph from Wikipedia showing the retreat of the Franz
            Josef Glacier.

   The graph above is from . It documents the retreat of the Franz Josef Glacier. Left in the graph shows advanced locations for the glacier’s terminus while the right portion of the graph shows decreased positions. In addition to the overall retreat of the glacier, note that there are minor advances that occur from time to time. If you get a year or two of abnormally heavy snowfall, then the extra mass will cause the Franz Josef or any other glacier to advance for a few years.

   These minor random advances are what the Global Warming Deniers claim as “Growing Glaciers”. They are not representative of what is going on, but the Global Warming Deniers are not interested in telling you the real story. They have a political agenda that they are trying to promote, and it doesn’t matter to them that they are not telling the truth. They are only interested in promoting their political agenda - and if what they are saying is actually a complete lie, it doesn’t concern them.

Also, please see:
PHOTOS: Iconic South Island glaciers retreating

Fox Glacier

The Fox Glacier in 2007

The Fox Glacier as of March 2, 2007

A 2016 view of where the Fox Glacier used to be.

The Fox Glacier as of 2016


   Notice anything missing in the 2016 photograph? The bare area on the hillside shows a trimline (green above – bare rock below) as vegetation hasn’t had a chance to grow yet in the area formally scraped bare by the glacier. The Ice Age Now website describes this vanishing act as “Fox Glacier . . . still on the march . . . advancing down their valleys”.

New Zealand’s Largest Glacier - The Tasman Glacier

   The false-color pictures below are from NASA’s Earth Observatory. The Tasman Glacier is New Zealands’s largest glacier. The Hooker Glacier and Mueller Glacier can also be seen. Both the Hooker and Mueller Glaciers are among New Zealand’s 12 largest glaciers.

NASA's view of New Zealand's largest glacier - The
            Tasman Glacier

   In these false-color images, pale blue indicates ice and snow, dark blue indicates water, green indicates vegetation, and brown indicates rock or bare ground. The lower ends of the three major glaciers are covered by eroded rocks and dirt, and thus appear as a very dark brown.

   All three glaciers are retreating from their terminal moraines. As they melt back, lakes form in the basins inside these terminal moraines. The 1990 photograph shows small lakes between the ends of the glaciers and the terminal moraines.

   By the time the 2007 photograph was taken, all three glaciers had melted further back. The lakes between the ends of the glaciers and the moraines had expanded significantly in size. As the Tasman Glacier retreats, large dirty icebergs calve off its end, and can be seen floating in its terminal lake.

Q: And how does the “Ice Age Now” website describe these retreating glaciers?
A: “Recently, all 50 glaciers in New Zealand were growing” (See 5th picture below)

Mt. Rainier’s Nisqually Glacier

   One of the most impressive mountains in the state of Washington is Mt. Rainier. Its summit elevation of over 14,000 feet is sufficient to support some two dozen glaciers. (The count has decreased in recent decades.)

The Ice Age Now website claims the Nisqually Glacier is
          advancing.   One of these glaciers is the Nisqually Glacier which is on the south side of the mountain. The “Ice Age Now” website states that the Nisqually is advancing.

   As documented below, this claim by the Ice Age Now website is a blatant lie. In reality, like most glaciers in the world, the Nisqually Glacier is retreating. It has melted back about 1 1/2 miles over the last 200 years. This retreat has continued over recent decades.

A map outlining the position of the Nisqually Glacier
          since the 1800s.The map to the right appeared in a research report by:
Stephen C. Porter
Quaternary Research Center
University of Washington

The following description accompanied the map.

“Extent of Nisqually Glacier in 1976 and early in the 19th century during its greatest advance of the Little Ice Age. Glacier terminus positions recorded sporadically between these times are identified by year of observation. Since 1976, the glacier terminus has continued to retreat and now lies well upvalley from its 1976 position. (after Porter, 1981)”

   The map also points out the terminus position as of 1997. This is well inside the 1976 boundary. The arrow that points to the 1997 terminus position is of interest. The arrow crosses an inward bend in the edge of the glacier. This bend marks an area where the glacier was pushed to the left by a rock buttress that protrudes from the right hand side of the glacial valley. This rock buttress is an identifying marker that can be matched to photographs. In turn these photographs show what has happened to the Nisqually Glacier’s terminus since 1997.

   Repeat satellite photography is a useful tool for documentation of melting/shrinking glaciers. The two views of New Zealand’s Tasman Glacier (shown a few paragraphs up) are just one example. Google Earth has a “clock” tool that lets you view many areas of the earth as photographed at different time periods. This includes the Nisqually Glacier. The two pictures below are vertical views of the Nisqually Glacier - one picture was taken in 1994 and the second in 2009.

Satellite view of the Nisqually Glacier in 1994

   The above black & white picture of the Nisqually Glacier can be seen in Google Earth by activating the “clock” tool and moving the “time slider” all the way to the left. The terminus of the Nisqually Glacier is the dark area (partial shadows - mud covered ice) in the lower left quadrant. A melt water stream can be seen exiting from the base of the glacier with the stream flowing downward off the bottom of the picture.

The Nisqually Glacier as seen from the same location
            but in 2009

  The above picture is viewed from an identical location, but in 2009. The Nisqually Glacier’s terminus is now in the upper left quadrant. The gully slightly above the center of the left edge is useful for comparing the two locations of the terminus. The glacier has shrunk by over 1,000 feet from 1994 to 2009. (In the 2009 picture the sun is off to the right which produces a shadow from the rock buttress - mentioned earlier.)

   The tan areas in the 2009 photo shows how much the glacier has melted since the 19th century. 150 years ago these tan areas were buried by the glacier. Since the 1800s, the glacier has melted back over a mile. The tan areas are still bare ground as vegetation hasn’t had enough time to establish itself yet. Also of interest:  Note the lateral moraines between the bare areas and the surrounding forest. These ridges of loose rock and sand also mark the extent of the glacier in the 1800s.

   The map shows the retreat of the Nisqually Glacier from the 1800s up to 1997, and the photographs show that this retreat has continued up to the present.

And how does the Ice Age Now website describe this retreat?
“Nisqually Glacier Advancing”

   If we check a few of Robert Felix’s (the owner of the Ice Age Now website) statements vs. reality, it’s easy to conclude that he is a pathological liar. (For example, see “Medical Dictionary” at )

A Print Screen image that illustrates some of Robert
          Felix's lies.  In an open letter from Robert Felix to Senator Maria Cantwell, the following statement is made:

“Recently, all 50 glaciers in New Zealand were growing.

(Please see the NIWA graph below)

   If we check with New Zealand’s National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research, we find that as of 2008:

“Most of New Zealand's glaciers are now the smallest they have been since records began - and they continue to shrink at a rapid rate.

The National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research, which made the discovery, said global warming was the main culprit.”

(Note, they shrank again in 2009.)
“New Zealand’s glaciers lost significant ice mass again last summer”

A graph showing the shrinkage of New Zealand glaciers

    The graph above is from the “Recent Global Glacier Retreat Overview” web page at: It shows the volume of New Zealand southern Alps Glaciers as reported by the NIWA. (The referenced web page has good documentation about world-wide glacial retreat.)

   Then there is the description seen at the top of the Ice Age Now web page:

“Are you aware that glaciers are growing in Washington State?

   One of the U. S. Geological Survey’s benchmark glaciers is Washington State’s North Cascade Glacier. The USGS has a “Glacier Erasure” time lapse video of what has happened to it.

The two pictures below are from this USGS video.

Washington State's North Cascade Glacier in 1958

Washington State’s North Cascade Glacier as it appeared in 1958 (above) and what was left of it as of 2006 (below).

Washington State's North Cascade Glacier in 2006

    And as noted above, the Nisqually Glacier is located on Mt. Rainier - also in Washington State.

Glaciers in Norway

The following photographs show what is happening to Glaciers in Norway.

   The first 3 photographs were posted at The fourth photograph was taken on Aug. 25, 2011 and can be seen at The four photographs show what has happened to Norway’s Briksdal Glacier since 2001.

Briksdal Glacier in 2001

Briksdal Glacier as of 2001

Briksdal Glacier in 2004

Briksdal Glacier as of 2004

Bridal Glacier in 2007

Briksdal Glacier as of 2007

Briksdal Glacier in 2011

Briksdal Glacier as of 2011

The Briksdal Glacier in 2017

Briksdal Glacier as of 2017

And would you like to make a guess as to how the Briksdal Glacier is classified at the Ice Age Now website?

The Ice Age Now website lists the Briksdal as a
            "Growing Glacier"

Isn’t it amazing how the Ice Age Now website classifies the Briksdal as a ”Growing Glacier”.

   If you check the 2010 “Engabreen Glacier, Norway retreat” report at ,
you will find that:
“From 1999-2009 Engabreen has retreated 255 m.”
“The 2009 position is its point of furthest retreat since the Little Ice Age. The recent retreat indicates a recent trend of negative mass balance on the glacier.”

   A quote from “Norwegian mountain glaciers in the past, present and future” (published in ScienceDirect): “Since 2000 most of the observed glaciers have retreated remarkably fast (annual frontal retreat >100 m) mainly due to high summer temperatures.”,%20present%20and%20future.pdf

Finally, the U. S. Geological Survey reports that:

There is no doubt that most mountain glaciers are shrinking worldwide in response to a warming climate.

In addition to these three glaciers, more than 99 percent of America’s thousands of large glaciers have long documented records of an overall shrinkage as climate warms

Now, about Robert Felix’s statement that “More than 90 percent of the world’s glaciers are growing” ?

As for Robert Felix’s “knowledge” about climatology, please see
for additional information about a certain “eccentric former architect”.

Alternately, please see:
“Is Felix a climatologist, a volcanologist or an oceanographer? Er, none of the above. His biography describes him as a "former architect". His website is so bonkers that I thought at first it was a spoof.”

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